I interviewed John Howard a year or so before the “unlosable” election in 1993 which John Hewson nevertheless did lose for the Australian Liberals. Howard was shadow industrial relations minister.
It was a lifeless exchange, with no hint of the battler who overcame his 1980s failure as leader to outlast Hewson and then Alexander Downer and lead the Liberals to three terms in power in 1996 — and maybe a fourth on October 9.